China retains supercomputing crown in latest Top 500 ranking
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09/20/2015, 04:35:05




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if US sold the latest version of Xeon Phi, TH2 may hit 100 petaflop this year
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nemo

09/20/2015, 05:14:06




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The latest version of Xeon Phi is about 3x as fast as the old version.

But China will still hit 100 petaflop earlier than US -- there will actually be TWO Chinese machines that will do so--


http://insidehpc.com/2015/08/china-may-develop-two-100-petaflop-machines-within-a-year/

China May Develop Two 100 Petaflop Machines Within a Year






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I will celebrate
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Khan

09/20/2015, 19:15:32




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when the world's fastest super-computer has Chinese designed processors, that are also produced in China!






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The PRC needs Chinese CPUs, semiconductors and capacitors
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superblaser

09/21/2015, 07:13:34




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The PRC needs its own Chinese designed and made CPUs, semiconductors and capacitors, for military and civilian purposes.






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The PRC needs air, water and Chinese food for military and civilian purposes.
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09/21/2015, 07:21:30




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LMAO!
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09/24/2015, 08:19:58




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Siberian monkies need rabies vaccination
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09/21/2015, 08:36:13




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Re: I will celebrate
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swoosh

09/20/2015, 23:44:10




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I'm actually more worried about the declining number of Chinese supercomputers on the list. It could mean three things, the rivals are investing more aggressively than China, China is waiting for homemade processors before going all out, or China's investment on supercomputer is declining and only aiming at superficial status like the number one spot. I hope it is either the first reason or second. 






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How many super-computers does China need?
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Khan

09/21/2015, 19:58:36




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I once read that, despite building the fastest super-computer in the world, China has not put its super-computers to good use!

Maybe, China should find an efficient way of using them first?






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despite of having fewer supercomputer than Japan in top 500...
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nemo

09/21/2015, 11:43:43




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sum of the throughput of Chinese supercomputers in top 500 is 1/3 higher than Japan's.





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Re: despite of having fewer supercomputer than Japan in top 500...
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swoosh

09/21/2015, 19:32:05




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To me, access to the supercomputers for the scientists all over the nation is as important as the computing power itself. After all, the supercomputer is only as good as the users. I hope Chinese scientists all over China who need access to the supercomputer to do the research can get them, and not only selected few with connection. 






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getting access isn't a problem
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nemo

09/22/2015, 05:01:37




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I read a post by someone who actually got access on TH-2, and he said that the machine is not fully utilized. The problem is software -- off the self software won't work -- it has to be specially modified to take advantage of the speed, so unless you develop the software yourself and/or have access to the source code to modified it, you cannot really make use of it.





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Can Indian software utilize Indian supercomputers?
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superblaser

09/23/2015, 17:29:11




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Indians are strong in software, right?smiley






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indigenous Indian supercomputers are useless for the same reason
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nemo

09/24/2015, 04:33:39




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-- actually, it's worse. It's not fast enough to make porting of software, even if it is available, to be worthwhile. Neither is developing software for it, because imported supercomputers are faster.
Nothing more than a waste of money -- by the time they develop the computer, it is already hopelessly behind in technology. The money would be better spend buying foreign supercomputer and develop home grown software for it.





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TH2 alone has more computing power than the bottom 100 of the top500 list
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09/21/2015, 04:36:44




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What happens to India's 30 exascale super duper computer?
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youarecorrect

09/20/2015, 07:20:08




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Has it become a superflop or what?






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India is planning to have 70 supercomputer by 2022
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nemo

09/20/2015, 08:21:02




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with the fastest machine having speed of 20 petaflop.
By that time, though, the fastest supercomputer is expected to have speed exceeding 1000 petaflop (1 exaflop).

The fastest machine made in India now is PARAM Yuva II, which is about 0.38 petaflop. Top put it in perspective, TH-2 is 33 petaflop -- so native Indian supercomputer is 1-2% as powerful as TH-2.

Note also 20 petaflop compare to 1000+ petaflop is also around 1-2%. So you can say India is planning to stand still and not falling further behind.






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In another 16 months or so,Bharat will hav the fastest cowpater@132.8 exapoops
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09/20/2015, 07:52:53




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